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Muffin
April 15th, 2004, 02:54
Do you think true love really exists?



You can live next door to someone all your life and never fall in love,
But that same person can live a thousand miles away and you fall in love instantly

Alexia
April 15th, 2004, 03:14
I have to believe. I just so badly want it to be true. :)

QuirkyTemplate
April 15th, 2004, 05:23
is 'true love' different than 'actual love' or just 'love'?

Love exists, without a doubt. So 'actual love' also exists as well ...

jabbernaut
April 15th, 2004, 08:49
Of course true love exists! :love: [/hopelessromantic]

... people just keep getting in its way.

Anita Blake
April 15th, 2004, 09:39
i think true love exists. i think that you simply have to be lucky enough to stumble across it and recognize it for what it is. sometimes you have it and don't even know until it's too late. and sometimes just because your love is true, it doesn't mean that it's eternal. if that makes any sense at all.

but i believe there is true, eternal love. i don't think it happens all the time, because it wouldn't be that special if it did, but i believe people experience it, and don't know if i'll find my true love, but am moderately hopeful. :)

Muffin
April 15th, 2004, 10:41
Of course true love exists! :love: [/hopelessromantic]

... people just keep getting in its way.


Awwwwww and i thought i was the only hopeless romantic left in the world marry me jabb lol

Tatum
April 15th, 2004, 10:51
Yes, I definitely think it exists, but I don't think a lot of people find it. And like Anita, I don't believe that its always eternal. Love seems to be an ever changing thing. It evolves into different forms over the course of a relationship I think. Thats why its so important to have things in common. That way, no matter what the relationship evolves into, you always have friendship. True friendship, in my opinion, is the core of true love.

epiph
April 15th, 2004, 11:46
i have this picture that i will never forget...the night my father died, my mother was crouched on his bed, holding herself over him so that they could look at each other while he died. she was holding his hand, and you could SEE the love binding them together, and you could see how intensely they loved each other. i can't not believe in love when i think of that moment.

jabbernaut
April 15th, 2004, 11:53
Gosh, epiph... get me all misty, whydoncha :cry: ~hugs~


marry me jabb
Oh my! :eek: :blush: This all so... so sudden!

Tatum
April 15th, 2004, 12:16
WOW Epiph! WOW!

I want that kind of love.

Jonboy
April 15th, 2004, 12:38
like no other......hell yeah true love exists........

~KA3AK~
April 15th, 2004, 17:04
True love does not exist. There is friendship, there is lust, but no love.

night faerie
April 15th, 2004, 18:12
No critisism of your particular experience, or of the truth behind it, epiph, but its easy to feel the acute intensity of love when you're about to lose someone you care about. The emotions are so raw and terrified at that point, it exacerbates everything.

I voted once in a blue moon. I definately believe in love, but I think so many people settle for what they think they want or for what they think is the best they'll ever get, or because they think its the right thing to do or whatever, only a small percentage of people who are meant to be together actually wind up together.

I dont think this is hopeless or cynical either, I just think true love is very rare and precious and should be treated accordingly.

Cloric the Cleric
April 15th, 2004, 18:21
Hmm...I was recently consoling a friend...his boyfriend had left him, and he was very upset, ya know the whole "I have nothing left to live for" upset, and I told him exactly what I feel. There is someone out there for everyone, or a couple someones. I don't believe that true love is always a once in a lifetime experiance. But then, I suppose that's because my view on true love is not quite the same as a lot of people's. True love does not mean perfection, and there are some things that even love can not overcome.

epiph
April 15th, 2004, 19:43
I dont think this is hopeless or cynical either, I just think true love is very rare and precious and should be treated accordingly.

so do i. nor do i think that i will necessarily ever have it. but i know that coupled with what i saw with my parents everyday and everything i saw when my dad was dying...not just the night he died...and (heh) how i dunno how my dad could possibly have dealt with my mother if he hadn't been madly in love with her...my parents at least had it. and they both had definately been in love before...but their previous marriages were not so much true love as young love. i know you're not trying to cheapen what i experienced...but it's more my judgement as a person i felt was being called into question :p thus the defense ;)

QuirkyTemplate
April 15th, 2004, 21:29
No, that kind of passionate love isn't rare. It's the thing God's been chasing you with your entire life. The thing you see in Jesus, if you looked. Ah, but that's cheating right? God doesn't count, right? Silly, no? Or maybe that's just the way it seems because you've yet to experience it? Or because you wont experience it? Well, whatever, I can tell you 100% that I have that kind of love available every day. In fact, everyone does.

Muffin
April 16th, 2004, 02:44
Oh my! :eek: :blush: This all so... so sudden!

lol sorry was a spare of the moment thing :blush:

Apoc
April 16th, 2004, 06:42
All you need is love...love lifts us up to were we belong, where eagles fly on a mountain high....woah...been watching Moulin Rouge..sorry....good film though ;)

Alexia
April 16th, 2004, 06:54
Love makes us act like we are fools, throw our lives away for one happy day...

Very good movie, indeed. :blush:

Waffles
April 16th, 2004, 07:20
lol sorry was a spare of the moment thing :blush:
First jabb is hotter than me, now he marries my sister! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Amos
April 16th, 2004, 07:27
i love you guys. it is the truth that i love you guys. truth + love = true love

well i'm convinced :) :love:

okay, more to the point, i think it all depends on how you think of love. i'm more inclined to side with quirk, except on a human to humanity basis as i don't believe in god. true love for me is pure, passionate and unbiased, unwavering and all-encompassing. true love for me is to love all things, all life and matter in existence. it's about acceptance, rather than a perfect ideal. though, while i can say i've "found" it, i don't truly posess it, as often enough the world and people just depress me :broken: :)

but perhaps there are two different kinds of love. perhaps there is another true love where two souls are destined and/or perfect for each other. i don't know. anything is possible, and there probably is evidence for it. it's kind of a nice thought, but personally i think i can be happy enough without it :)

on a one to one basis, i think with enough compassion and understanding any two people could spend their lives together. of course in many cases this would take a lot of compassion and understanding. i know that i couldn't just shack up with anybody. a fair amount of common ground is important (edit: no, not common ground.. um, something.. okay i don't know what), for me, to be able to form such a close relationship. but i don't have any ideals about who i might "match" with. i figure i'll know when they come along.

i think that's about right *muses over this*

jabbernaut
April 16th, 2004, 09:51
First jabb is hotter than me, now he marries my sister! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Cool down, Waffles, I haven't said yes... yet. :p hehe

And kudos, Quirky :D

dark fuschia
April 17th, 2004, 20:09
I agree qith QT, there is only one place to find pure boundless love (If that is what you mean by true love). I think the idea that it can be found in other people is a great falacy of our age and one cause of the high divorce rate etc, people expect to find meaning of life in their spouse, which is just bloody stupid if you ask me. Of course they'll be dissapointed, and then they hold it against each other. :rolleyes: Also another problem: it seems there are more people who expect to find love than people who actually give it out. No wonder there's a shortage of it. It's simple arithmatic.

Dregs
April 18th, 2004, 17:09
True love exists. You just have to get really drunk one night and say "My name's Dregs and I'm an ecologist" to find it. Worked a treat for me.

SonoftheSands
April 19th, 2004, 01:15
I have no doubts in True Love, I see it with my parents, and a few other couples that I know. a love so strong, deep and soul-felt that the lovers cannot imagine life without the other love, and can quite truthfully depend on each other as though they were of one mind. Harmonious Lifestyle. It's a magical sight, and i hope and pray that some day I'll be so blessed.

cobaltknight
May 10th, 2004, 02:02
I find it hard to believe in what people call True Love. Such an obviously personified state of being is undoubtedly the part of each of us that screams 'I can't be alone, there's no way that there isn't a perfect match for me somewhere out there, I deserve to be loved'. Well, to put it bluntly, there is certainly not a special someone for each and every one of us. We are egotistical to the extreme when we profess to know with godly accuracy the hearts of others. I much prefer to lie by saying 'I have met god and know his name' than to tell others just as sad as I, that there is hope for all the wretched masses of affection-craving human beings. No, I do not believe in True Love, simply because I am sure I had it once and now I do not. Call it my way of justifying the failure of what is supposed to be perfect.

Cobalt is a shade of blue,
a cold uncaring sort of hue.
Someone said 'I love you true'
but where are they now? I ask of you