Knife of Dreams - SPOILERS! SPOILERS! You have been warned.

**sir archely** · January 4th, 2006

heh, i figured out the asking for these books for xmas so long ago, i don't have to ask for them anymore. somehow my mother keeps herself in the know of a fantasy series' release date. which is, to say the least, nothing short of incredible.

i have to grudgingly say that this book actually gave me hope that the series may 1)end soon, and 2)end decently. definitely some terrible parts (read as: all of anything involving things remotely connected to elayne), but also parts that were encouraging. i did enjoy the egwene stuff, in addition to loial/erith/his mom/elder bit. the part with nynaeve and the malkieri guys was just great. i think forced servitude may actually have helped faile's character be more likable.

i was highly disappointed with the manner in which rand loses his hand though. i mean, c'mon. perfect set up to have him actually be captured for a moment, and have the losing of a hand be the manner by which someone gets the bracelet off him and thereby stops the carnage he's being forced to create. no, instead he's just being a moron and gets blasted. bah. one time when i would have encouraged RJ to spend more time on a section and he rushes it.

**Jonboy** · January 27th, 2006

allright all well and good. first off some theries

1st, remember "lord of chaos" well RJ was refering to Taim, not rand. if you already knew that great, but i realized it this last book.

i think the "giving up half the light of the world to save the world" was the sa'agreal melting down and being destroyed. half the light of the world, no?

the chick min keeps telling rand is going to help him die? well that has to do with lews therin and morridin. rand was told to win the last battle he had to die... but it was said as "to live, you must die" so therin and morridin will be gone from him, and with them his madness.

RJ said himself, there will only be one more book, he doesnt care how long it has to be, but it will be one book, and it will be the last.

the knife of dreams is the small ter'agreal than elayne has that "whats her face" gave her.... no idea why its the title of the book, but thats the knife of dreams...

mat will probly get ravens tattoed of his arse.....just guessing there

ummmm..... i cant remember the rest, but i do know who killed asmodean.... RJ said it was "obvious to the casual observer" whoever that is......

**epiph** · January 27th, 2006

Actually, that half the light of the world thing, I wonder if it means giving up saidar to save the world...because saidar does seem to be failing on a monumental scale. Although I don't think any of the Aes Sedai with Rand have mentioned it, just the tower factions. Wouldn't that be a nice turn "Men can't channel because they'll detroy the world...crap, women can't channel anymore."

Shot in the dark, but what do you think?

**sir archely** · January 27th, 2006

wasn't the 'half the light of the world' a mat prophecy? not a rand prophecy? i'm not sure how either of those things involve mat enough to have it be about him... i could be wrong though. it's been a while.

**Jonboy** · January 27th, 2006

it cant be saidar failing, because the one power cant be whole without both halves. and it could be about mat. in norse mythology, odin gives one of his eyes to see the future, past,and present. mat gave part of his life to see the past. just a thought. (plus im drunk so i may not be thinking very clearly)

anyway...

oh and arch!!! the cat is the shit!!!!!

**Amos** · January 27th, 2006

ja. mat, and losing an eye, no doubt, in keeping with his Life of Odin parallels. i think it's weird how RJ's prophecies are all so concrete. and also boring. he talks them up way too much, and then they just sorta happen, like with Mat getting married and Rand losing his hand.

~goes off randomly on a Dr. Seuss tangent~

Rand. Hand. Rand has Hand. Rand loses Hand. Hand loses Rand. Rand. Hand. Bland!

**Jonboy** · January 28th, 2006

Originally Posted by james

ja. mat, and losing an eye, no doubt, in keeping with his Life of Odin parallels. i think it's weird how RJ's prophecies are all so concrete. and also boring. he talks them up way too much, and then they just sorta happen, like with Mat getting married and Rand losing his hand.

~goes off randomly on a Dr. Seuss tangent~

Rand. Hand. Rand has Hand. Rand loses Hand. Hand loses Rand. Rand. Hand. Bland!

isnt that how life works tho? life just sorta happens, no one thing makes you who you are, just as rjs characters. it is merely a part of who they are... oh yeah, does tuon know mat is the hornsounder? i forgot.....

**jUstIn** · March 16th, 2006

lol i love the trip mat pulls on tuon. she all wha??? he has an army? what? hehe

**Winged-Beast** · August 25th, 2006

i have read all of these wheel books and am looking very much for the last one. i hope it is able to be written and that robert jordan makes a very good complete recovery.

i think the light of the world was for mat not for rand so rand will do other things.

**Jonboy** · June 5th, 2008

oh and rj said he wasnt going to tie up every plot line.... some things were just going to have to be implied.... the little plot lines in each book were there for that book only, to sorta fill in the story a bit better.... he said the last book will tie up the major plot lines... maybe not every sub plot in the series.... he was ready for closure before he died. (rip RJ we all miss you dearly) so that being said, all the players for the final battle have been introduced and fleshed out to an extent, but dont expect EVERYTHING to be spelled out and handed to you. you have been reading the books so you kinda know where things are going. RJ belived his readers were smart enough to figure some things out on their own