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    *clears voice*. If you now are going to be annoyed that I poke my nose into something that probably is a dead theme, or soon will be (hopefully), do not worry, you're probably not half as annoyed as I am with myself. I am going to do something that is without precedent in the world of reasonable men, I am going to use myself as an example. A good example. *ahem* Wait, rather I am going to write about something, and some of you, and throw in my own reflections. It used to come alot of good out of that, back in the days; my teachers would say "ah, this is good. You are showing a personal interest in the theme given and have clearly worked hard towards identyfying yourself with the subject" Of course I hadn't, it was just that rambling away has always been easier than knowing, you know, real facts.

    Anyway, the hostility around here these past few days is sad to witness. This is such a good place

    I think it is sad that WW and the Wb's have gone off so soon, even though it was validated that some of them was just frauds gone here to mess things up, and so it is good to be rid of them. Even though I did not know the original Wb (which, by all means, probably is just as good), I went back and read a couple of his post and they were mostly about him wanting to kill himself or some other bitching. I understand that he has hurt people around here deeply, and I know that wounds take time to heal. This other people should understand. So if that means someone will be wounded by the now sharper pikes surrounding a person, or receiving a red dot as the saying goes, maybe try to look through the fingers with it. Move on.

    As it always is, what I have up until now been saying is something that was not what I intended. Such is the way of the Eyre. Never to say that which should have been said. What I wanted to to was to compare this place to a party. Yes. And throw in my own thoughts. When I came here, some three months ago, it was the first time I ever joined a, what do you call it, internet society or whatnot. It still is the only time. I've found what I was looking for here. Anyway, and this is to you WW,WB or just anyone that has been thinking about joining up lately, when I first came here, it was like going to a party where you don't know anybody. Can be scary, can be bad, or it can be really good *looks about self to search for the point he thought he was going to make somewhere*; when you do go to a party without knowing anybody, you don't jump up on the table, shout about and talks all the time to make people notice you. That will have people point at you and say to each other "let's not invite that person again". And that is the main fault I've found with some of the newbies (hah, I'm calling other people newbies) that has joined up lately. Of course, the fault might well be mine, it tends to be. I'll explain; when I joined up I spent days before I ever posted anything, I read about, trying to decipher the inner workings around the quill. What I found was that some things were more "core" than others. For instance I saw that Absnot was a place were mostly the people that had been members for a long time posted. So I decided I wouldn't start up there. For my party-comparison, this will be the table around which the closest friends sit. And when you are new you don't push someone of a chair to take a place at that table, at least you don't do that until you are really drunk. Or want to go streaking.

    The point, the fabled something that maybe will grace us with it's presence in the near future, is a hint at people joining up to show some respect. And give of yourselves before you expect something in return. Write about yourselves, there is a place called "reflections", show us some the things that make you you. How do you suppose someone will trust you not to be the infamous Wb if you wont do anything else than saying just that; I'm not Wb. Even I could do that. Why don't you instead write about your life, your thoughts and the things that make you wonder. (as I understand it the Wb didn't have either, so there you go, bulletproof...er...proof). Because, if you lurk around in the corners, quietly introducing yourselves and telling people about yourself, listening to what they have to say I believe that somewhere along the way, there will be someone that takes to liking you to the extent where you will be invited to the table. So be patient, take it easy, grab a beer and chill. This is a good place, and I refuse to say otherwise.

    So for the love of whatever deity, red monkey or other that you believe in show some respect
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    Quote Originally Posted by night faerie View Post
    well, she decided she didnt like this place and left, fine, but then she sent her warder back here to mess with us for revenge? for what? It's not like we dealt her some devestating wrong. And if she didnt intend for him to do anything, why bother even telling him who we are? Seems like someone who would do something like that isnt someone I want around.


    ok I have no clue what "only one post" you're talking about but regardless, someone coming here well, yeah I think it's safe to say that person is untrustworthy from our standpoint. He did not sign up and openly declare himself, as would be the honorable thing if he really felt it necessary, and ask what the F*** was up.
    Firstly Wonder Woman didn't "send her warder back to mess with us for revenge". She mentioned that she had had a problem here so I came to work out what was going on. The site did not do her any serious wrong however a number of people here, including you nightfairie tried their hardest to make her time here miserable. Also the reason why I didn't openly declare myself at the start was because I wanted to see quite how badly people here reacted.
    Some people on this site seem really genuinely nice and I hope that you will think twice before you condemn someone for their initials in future.

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    also thanks for the post Eyre. I hadn't read that before I replied because I replied after reading night faerie's post because it really irritates me when someone has a go at my Aes Sedai. Anyway I hope that people understand why I did what I did, I am sorry if I have irritated or offended anyone and I am going to sleep around now but will consider what to do tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Black View Post
    also thanks for the post Eyre. I hadn't read that before I replied because I replied after reading night faerie's post because it really irritates me when someone has a go at my Aes Sedai. Anyway I hope that people understand why I did what I did, I am sorry if I have irritated or offended anyone and I am going to sleep around now but will consider what to do tomorrow.

    Consider what to do? What are your options? Create more usernames to attempt to 'destroy' a good site? Try to seed more mistrust? Do nothing? Or gasp, maybe apologize?


    Seriously, grow the hell up. Most of the people on this site have something called maturity and trust. Dont fuck with it as part of some vendetta. This site is a great place, and Im sick of people fucking around for personal aims that have honestly nothing to do with anyone here.

    WW, whoever she is (I honestly dont care) was treated warmly by a lot of people here. Look at the welcome thread. One person made passing 'laugh with you not at you joke' and that served as the scapegoat for the spiral of hate toward her... or something. From my eyes, I saw someone who got a bad rep from someone and then proceeded to freak out of it like the end of the world. Oh noes! /sarcasm

    Then multiple wb clones pop up and stupidness ensues. Most of the people on this site are either ignoring you or just skimming over your posts without a second thought. Try harder to be a dick or leave. The choice is yours.

    And anyone else out there seeing this site and thinking of joining. IF you know us already dont fake a first meeting, say "hi Im so and so from such a place".


    For fucks sake.


    edit - I would also kindly appreciate it if you did not boo and hiss someone like nf. She is an admin here and is doing her job. Dont hate the fairy, she is a great person.
    Last edited by Buck; August 27th, 2006 at 12:53.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Black View Post
    Firstly Wonder Woman didn't "send her warder back to mess with us for revenge". She mentioned that she had had a problem here so I came to work out what was going on. The site did not do her any serious wrong however a number of people here, including you nightfairie tried their hardest to make her time here miserable. Also the reason why I didn't openly declare myself at the start was because I wanted to see quite how badly people here reacted.
    Some people on this site seem really genuinely nice and I hope that you will think twice before you condemn someone for their initials in future.
    For the record, one loses all rights to toss around accusations concerning the quality of treatment they receive if they join under false pretenses. You say that you didn’t declare yourself because you wanted to see for yourself. Well you went about it the wrong way. What you did was akin to smoking in a hospital as in you knew it would get a negative response so what would have that proved?

    The truly objective way to have gone about your “investigation” would have been to look at the member list and taken a look at the newest members. Barring WW whom is the subject of the debate you could have gotten a pretty good picture of the treatment of new members. Sadly you came here with your mind already made up and choosing that username name it became a self fulfilling prophesy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buck View Post
    edit - I would also kindly appreciate it if you did not boo and hiss someone like nf. She is an admin here and is doing her job. Dont hate the fairy, she is a great person.
    aww, thx Bucky, but really, it's fine. Sometimes I act as an admin and sometimes I act impulsively as the simple faerie that I am. I certainly dont always do the Right thing and that's why we need several admins here, so when one of us goes off the deep end, we've five others to reel us back in and be rational. Not that I'm saying I was wrong in this case (still too close to the forest to tell) but if not, I'm sure I have been wrong sometime in the past, or will be in the future and karmic law has it that I'll get it all back, but meh, now I'm just rambling.

    As far as making WW's time here miserable, that's absurd. I dont waste my time trying to make anyone's time here miserable. At my very worst, I might try to make them go away, but never miserable. Even for my worst enemies, I dont wish them misery, I just wish them all the worlds happiness... far away from me.

    Regardless, I'm pretty sure the worst thing I did to WW was to give her neg rep, once. Other than that, I dont believe I even spoke to her. I may not have liked her, not that she gave me a chance to even get to know her, running off the way she did, but I really didnt care enough about her one way or another to bother messing with her.

    You know, this site has some really intelligent and strong minded and OPINIONATED people. Certain traits bring us together and keep us together. I'd say this place is not for the feint of heart. Just ask Fizz. She's been abused by the best of us (myself included) and she just bounces back time after time. She has gained a great deal of respect from many of us, even if we still dont agree with many of her opinions, for her resiliancy and strength of spirit. Sorry for using you for an example, Fizz, but I think it makes my point.

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    ..Man. I'm gone for a few days and everything hits the fan. 'Least I'm not the cause this time.

    I'm going to stick my nose in really quick just because I think I might be able to explain things for the whiners, and for the quillers (maybe). I'm glad that NF and the few others who were randomly snotty to me in the past have gotten over it atleast partially.

    You're a family. I still don't nessicarily consider myself apart of it. There are people here that I absolutely adore...but I also know that if I came to a Quillfest, I'd be more like the crazy uncle Al that no one REALLY cares about either way, than the beloved sister or something. Sometimes its hard to break into a family and really bond with certain people because the minute you disagree with them, you're suddenly an enemy. The only people good at becoming apart of a family are babies-innocent and incapable of sticking their foot in their mouth. Like any time you marry into a family-I didn't used to love so many of you. For awhile, I probably hated most of you. But, if people would toughen up and stick around for awhile, they'd be able to see the family that already exists, and love it enough to want to stick around and look after it as well.

    I think posting on message boards requires a certain amount of patience with people. Something a lot of us (myself included) don't have. Even the best of writers can have a hard time communicating their own opinions when they're caught up in the moment. And some of the best of people can say the wrong thing to the wrong person at the wrong time. I think we can learn from this. I think the regulars around here could stand to be a little bit nicer to "nosey neighbors" that aren't part of the family (because someday, they might be) and I think new comers need to realize that we aren't perfect (we just seem like it) and they need to give us a break when they catch us in defensive mode.

    Thats all..I'm done. ~hugs the fairy...just incase she said something wrong, then runs~
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    you know I just went through all WW's posts and I fail to see any instance that she was illtreated. I guess it was all through pm? For future reference, if anyone's being illtreated via pm, you should inform the admins so they can deal with the situation.

    <edit> I almost forgot my whole point in using Fizz as an example. The bottom line people, is like her or not, she came here as herself with no pretenses and has never made any apologies for who she is. Like her or not, she deserves and has earned our respect for that.
    Last edited by night faerie; August 27th, 2006 at 21:05.

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    I'd have to agree with you on that, NF. Everyone knows that Fizz and I ahve had our trials and tribulations, but she has grown as a person in her time here. She has always stood her ground and I can admire that.
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    Is leatsa m’anam gus an criochnaich ar saoghal.


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    I respect someone who strongly disagree with me, more than someone who weakly agrees. And we would care about you Fizzy! We'd just take the piss out of you Then again, we all take the piss out of everyone... except for NF. I'm the only one who ever dares do that, cos I know she love me too much to hate me

    Anyway, lets just chill everyone! Whats done is done, and we can stop the hatin' and get back to the psilliness :broken:
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    Youre not like the weird uncle al, fizz,. You are more like my hermit brother whom I never see but my parents forced me to talk to you at family gatherings!

    I joke, please dont run away and have peeps blame me for running you out of here! Seriously you have an opinion and stick to it. I admire that.


    Also NF, thanks for the support and pms. I appreciate it. Love ya!
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    I just realized that I haven't actualy look at the Home Page in a very, very long time. I think I'll take a look and see what I can find. I know I was here for a while before I knew who the Admins were, but then I have a talent for not noticing things like that. Just one of the things I'm sure ya'll love about me.
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    Is leatsa mo bhodhaig, chum gum bi sinn ‘n ar n-aon.
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    I still want to have your baby Viv!
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