My Response

[WolfBrother]

So I was talkin’ to Kalle the other day and she told me there some shit goin’ down at the quill again. And apparently I’m the topic of interest. So I thought I’d check things out. You know, I would’ve guessed that you people would be over this by now. But since you’re apparently not please allow me to address some of the issues currently at hand.

At my very worst, I might try to make them go away, but never miserable. Even for my worst enemies, I dont wish them misery, I just wish them all the worlds happiness... far away from me.

Awww. So all the hate mail you sent me was just you trying to wish me happiness in the future? That’s so sweet.

Even though I did not know the original Wb (which, by all means, probably is just as good), I went back and read a couple of his post and they were mostly about him wanting to kill himself or some other bitching. I understand that he has hurt people around here deeply, and I know that wounds take time to heal.

First of all. You don’t even know me. We’ve never met. So judging me based on the poor description of the people at the quill who hate me is hardly justified.

Secondly. Yes I DID bitch a lot in my time here about how much my life sucked and how I wanted to kill myself. However I only did it in my reflections thread. Where bitching of that nature is allowed. It’s a blog. What do you really expect of one. Thank you by the way for failing to look up the posts I DID make that contributed to the site.

Oh. And as for the “hurt” people here. It’s the internet. If you get hurt over something so easily from someone that you really don’t know, then maybe you shouldn’t log on anymore.

he wanted us to all feel pity for him as HE requested to be banned...

I asked to be banned so that I didn’t have to deal with certain issues on the site. It was SUPPOSED to be a temp ban that would be lifted after I felt that I could deal with said issues. I was not granted the reinstatement upon request. And as for the “pity” I never wanted anyone to feel pity for me. Did I bitch a lot? Yes. People do that when they’re depressed.

then one of the members who joined after his departure suddenly revealed himself as being the sad pathetic individual, he had lied to many in this sad deception for a long time...

I made said new account after my reinstatement was denied, even though I was supposed to be able to come back.

wolfbrother in his great sadness just couldn't stay away from annoying us...he was banned again only to return again with threats that we couldn't keep him out and that he'd make us all suspicious of new members...

Did I threaten that? Probably. But I didn’t really need to. Everyone was already suspicious of everyone after I made 2 or 3 accounts. They still are to this day. My fault? Hardly. People here have their own little clique and if you’re not already a part of it then you’re not welcome.

I will not sit idly by while accusations are made that the quill is unwelcoming to new members, that we're hateful and suspicious of new people...cause as a whole we're not...its one bad apple-WolfBrother instigating suspicion and trying to bait an angry response through deception...and not even good deception...this guy is such a dick he wants to make us fall for it whilst its plainly obvious it is him...WB ~shakeshead~

This is my first account here again since the last time I was banned. Do I check in on the quill? Yeah I do occasionally. I like to see what’s going on. And for the most part there are some interesting threads here. But mostly I come back to see if people still bitch about me. Apparently you do. Is the quill welcoming to new members? Doesn’t seem like it to me. As proof from the 2 newer WB names that got neg rep in less than an hour after joining.

Perhaps it IS because they were stupid enough to use my initials. But weather that’s the reason or not, it is DEFINITLEY inappropriate.

we're sorry if your not this asshole WolfBrother...but we're not going to fall for his tricks again...understand all those bearing WB initials, we're sorry...but WolfBrother the dickhead has ruined it for you here, the suspicion will not cease nor will the hate we have for him be aimed at you cease

Ok. Apoc I never did anything to you when I was here before. The name calling is totally not necessary. If anything I expressed anger towards the admins. I’m sorry you guys. A couple of you can be really cool. But for the most part you’ve all become a little power hungry since creating your own site.

I worded that carefully, i was only vicious toward WolfBrother

Yes. Because I was so wrong towards you in my time here.

I'll admit, i never really cared for the original WB in the first place, he was a weenie

LOL, thank you Anita. I’ll remember that you used to think I was a weenie considering you were one of the people I used to chat with all the time. Didn’t seem to have a problem with me before the admins here.

Some of the trouble here was caused deliberately, though with absolute no idea that it would cause TROUBLE. Merely poking something with a stick, that just turned out to have teeth and scales and poison darts and breathes fire and has a frickin' laser on its head.

Hehe

I’m gonna take that as a compliment



So there you have it.

[night faerie]

for the record, there was never an agreement made, nor an understanding that the ban would be temporary.

[WolfBrother]

Why would I ask to be banned if it COULDN'T be lifted? And I'm pretty sure that I spoke to Arch about

[Kalle al'Tear]

For the record... I was NOT trying to cause trouble when it was mentioned. I was venting my frustrations at another site I go too.. and well Wolfie goes there as well..
I see Wolfie's points, I see Quill's.. is this done now??

[Waffles]

Just as a note to all the newer people...

The cause for WB being disliked here include:

• Constant and unending bitching about rep points.
• Nastiness to certain people (including me, though I'm over it).
• Incredible jealousy when it came to women, most noticably *****
• Incessant whining which was NOT limited to the reflections page (though I will admit I have been guilty of whining as well).
• Coming to the Quill and pretending to be someone else completely.

Its not him that most of us have a problem with, as he's grown a lot as a person in the past few years. Its just what he has done. I will admit that its sad that there is such paranoia re: WB, but he did have a great negative effect to this place.

[sir archely]

i don't even want to reply, but i guess i have to put up my part.

buh? must have been some other arch then, because i remember nothing about your possible comeback tour. nor does it even hint at that in your final reflections goodbye post. it's rather curious to me why, if you wanted to come back, you came back as an entirely different person, lying to all these people you apparently want to hang out with. you could have just made a new name (like this one) and said, hey, it's me again, i want to play nice.

now, can we please be done with this? if you want to air something, do it here, cause i'm just going to start axing posts about this issue when they occur in other random places.

[Buck]

So I was talkin’ to Kalle the other day and she told me there some shit goin’ down at the quill again. And apparently I’m the topic of interest. So I thought I’d check things out. You know, I would’ve guessed that you people would be over this by now. But since you’re apparently not please allow me to address some of the issues currently at hand.

For the most part we are. Any recent drama is being caused by new people intentionally trying to stir the pot.

Secondly. Yes I DID bitch a lot in my time here about how much my life sucked and how I wanted to kill myself. However I only did it in my reflections thread. Where bitching of that nature is allowed. It’s a blog. What do you really expect of one. Thank you by the way for failing to look up the posts I DID make that contributed to the site.

Dont play innocent. You left over very specific circumstances. Some of which waffles highleted. You left of your own choice and you even banned yourself in some sort of martyr complex methodology that didnt really phase anyone.

Then we didnt hear from you for a long long time. And everything was good.

Oh. And as for the “hurt” people here. It’s the internet. If you get hurt over something so easily from someone that you really don’t know, then maybe you shouldn’t log on anymore.

It isn't about hurt. It is about deception. You came back under the guise of on a new user name. And went so far as to mock not knowing certain things on the site and asked lots of questions about how things worked here to keep the veil of your guise well hidden. When you came forward and said who you were, THAT is when people here got really disgusted by you. at the time the phrase being tossed around was I believe "mental rape". A lot of people at that point wanted you fucken gone for being such a deceptive dusche bag.

I asked to be banned so that I didn’t have to deal with certain issues on the site. It was SUPPOSED to be a temp ban that would be lifted after I felt that I could deal with said issues. I was not granted the reinstatement upon request. And as for the “pity” I never wanted anyone to feel pity for me. Did I bitch a lot? Yes. People do that when they’re depressed.

Certain issues or cetain people? As for this temp ban, first I heard of it and this is the first time you mentioned it in all your re-incarnations here. Shove off.

I made said new account after my reinstatement was denied, even though I was supposed to be able to come back.

Did I threaten that? Probably. But I didn’t really need to. Everyone was already suspicious of everyone after I made 2 or 3 accounts. They still are to this day. My fault? Hardly.

You seeded the mistrust. What it has turned into or not into to this day is overhyped imho. Recent drama has been over the two latest WB's to register and as it turns out they are the same person and logged into this site to 'investigate' great wrong doings one against his sedai ... or some shit. WW was treated quite well until she got one bad rep...then she flaked out and left on her own.

This site doesnt care much for the rep system. And we pretty much dont let it become an issue as a point to that end.

People here have their own little clique and if you’re not already a part of it then you’re not welcome.

Id rather see it as a long rooted friendship grounded in trust. A lot of us have know each other for a damn well long time and have met each other in person more than once. For all intensive purposes I consider a bunch of people here REAL-Life friends. You want to dismiss it as a cock-block clique... whatever.

But dont say that people arent welcome here. We have a mistrust when it comes to people who come here under the guile of other names. Something you have done repetitively.

Aside from that we are quite open armed.

This is my first account here again since the last time I was banned. Do I check in on the quill? Yeah I do occasionally. I like to see what’s going on. And for the most part there are some interesting threads here. But mostly I come back to see if people still bitch about me. Apparently you do. Is the quill welcoming to new members? Doesn’t seem like it to me. As proof from the 2 newer WB names that got neg rep in less than an hour after joining.

How much do you know about who they are and why 'they' joined. If you are going to lurk read more.

Perhaps it IS because they were stupid enough to use my initials. But weather that’s the reason or not, it is DEFINITLEY inappropriate.

The choice of initials in all probability was intentional to stir the flames a bit. Thinking otherwise is a bit naive. If they have issue with bad rep, let them argue for it. It is their fight not yours.



My opnion of you hasnt changed much WB. When you originally left, I only was vaguely aware of what happened. And as the type of person I am, unless I see it first hand, I dont pass judgement on people. That is the way I am.

However, you came back as someone else and lied about stuff to keep up an act. When the mask came off, that is when I was disgusted by you. It was a very vile act imo.

And what do you do? You do it again.

And again.

And again.

What does that say of your character?

[Jennifer]

This is my first account here again since the last time I was banned.

Actually, didn't you make one or two identities to bash and threaten how you could keep coming back or something like that? AFTER you were banned that last time? I tried to look on the old absnot just for S&G to see, but for some reason I can't find it.

Admins, why can't I find the old absnot?

[Buck]

It was probably destroyed cause malcor kept unlocking it.

[Amos]

People here have their own little clique and if you’re not already a part of it then you’re not welcome.

Newsflash - we don't have to like you. We don't have to like anybody. If we want to be biased, suspicious, uncaring, or pissed off, then that is what we will be. We're not two-dimensional characters cut out and stuck on the interweb with smiling faces and happy happy welcome arms for everybody. We're frickin normal people. Well, maybe not normal, but people anyway. If anyone wants to be loved and welcomed unconditionally then they can go and start their own site with their own multiple-avatars. Anyone can ask us to accept them, but they should not expect us to, especially if they have the maturity of a blueberry scone.

You think we have a clique? Maybe we do. You think new people are somehow kept away? If you were on even the remotest edges of our community you might have noticed people like gelflingjen and eyreplenh who are very much a part of things here now. But you are not a part of us anymore. You are the part we threw away.

[Malcor Sylverwood]

It was probably destroyed cause malcor kept unlocking it.

Nah, its much more directly related to the fact it kept getting locked...then it got the FUBAR...

heh

[Jennifer]

but...but... it was like a historic document!!!

[Malcor Sylverwood]

OK, OK...It was in large part my fault. And for its worsened condition, I'm sorry. I was (am) trying to save it...good intentions and all...

-Malcor "Sheepish" Sylverwood

[Buck]

Nah, its much more directly related to the fact it kept getting locked...then it got the FUBAR...

heh

Sure blame the person that kept locking it, not the one that kept unlocking it.

Remember it takes two to tango, bub.

[WolfBrother]

You are the part we threw away.

Yes. Thrown away under the false promises that the "temp" ban would be lifted upon request. If you had requested a temp ban and been denied a return upon request you would've done the same thing.

I didn't do anything wrong in the beginning. Keeping me gone was the admins way of showing their power over people on their high and mighty thrones.

Actually, didn't you make one or two identities to bash and threaten how you could keep coming back or something like that? AFTER you were banned that last time? I tried to look on the old absnot just for S&G to see, but for some reason I can't find it.

LOL

Yeah I did make a few accounts. I was overly pissed at that point, and I'll admit considerably childish. I do feel bad for having caused so much trouble in the past. Looking back on what I have done around here makes me sick.

What I was saying though was that I have had no other accounts since I was last banned.

"mental rape"

Ok. Again. While I DO agree that what I did was wrong. Calling it "mental rape" is a bit over dramatic. It IS the internet. I understand that people develope a certain trust with others here. But we ALL lie a bit.

Granted I DID go way overboard, but mental rape is still a little harsh of a discription.

Certain issues or cetain people?

Ok. So my issues were with ******. Nothing that she did herself. I had a MAJOR crush on her at the time and got easily jealous. We have since made up and I still speak to her on occasion. She's fine with me.

The choice of initials in all probability was intentional to stir the flames a bit.

I agree, the last two people who joined with my initals were obviously here to cause trouble. Given the recent increase in discussions about me I can't say that I'm really shocked to find a troll or two that would jump at the chance to start something in a community as lively as this one.

My point was that they really hadn't done anything here YET. Why neg rep them until they have?

What does that say of your character?

Sad? Pathetic? Loser? Needs a life? Sum it up nicely for ya? Yeah. I was all those things.

Honestly. My life sucked at the time and I didn't know how to handle it. I'm not using that as an excuse. Please don't take it that way.

Its not him that most of us have a problem with, as he's grown a lot as a person in the past few years.

Thank you for that little bit of a compliment there Waffles. I know we've had our problems in the past. And I'd like to think that we could get along now. When I emailed you a few months back I was totally sincere. I am sorry for causing you so much trouble.

I do feel that I have matured a lot, having a wife and 4 children.

I was NOT trying to cause trouble when it was mentioned

Please don't take things out on Kalle. She didn't send me here to make this thread. Nor did she know that I would come here either. She just happened to mention the goings on here at the quill in passing because they were about me.

I came here again of my own free will